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Yes Jim I certainly expect they will be quite soft for thin skinned game mostly. They should be hell on all but the biggest pigs too.Rem Jim":oggyojvy said:I tired to post a picture of the last Whitetail 5 pt i shot with the 45-70 and Horn Factory 325 FTX ammo but could not - BUT ! i shot the deer looking straight on at 60 yards in the throat-neck and it went in to the spline and stopped there - KILLED the deer in its trackes - but the bullet shed 100 grs of weight ! I expected it to exit but it did not - i think this bullet after looking at the killing bullet are only good for lung-heart shots - i would never shoulder shot a BEAR with them or any Other Big animal - there are much better bullets to use such as the HORN 350 gr SP or others - the 250 Horn GMX-Mono Flex would give better penetration then the GMX too ! JMHO RJ